where the red river flows

Folded over and a bit worn in places. These also were well inland—in some instances with substantial trees nearby. It flows generally southeastward, passing through Dai ethnic minority areas before leaving China through Yunnan's Honghe Autonomous Prefecture. The song featured in this video is Where the River Flows by Collective Soul. Here’s to peace on the Red River! [The monument shown on the opening spread is one that should have references to OK and TX removed—if Mr. Canan would allow anyone from BLM on his property.]. On March 29, 2017, the Chief Cadastral Surveyor of the BLM New Mexico Office issued a statement suspending the surveys of T5S R15W; T5S R13W; and T5 and 6 R12W of the Indian Meridian, Oklahoma. The Oklahoma v. Texas lawsuit of that era involved hundreds of expert witnesses and filled thousands upon thousands of pages of evidence. E A E Hiiiiiiiiiiiiii deeeeeeeeeeeee dooooooooooo looooooooooooooo - ooooooooooooooooahho (yodel) E B7 You can hear them darkies crooning soft and low A A and the twilight in the evening, so loooooooooooooooooooooow. I think a little force/gravity tweak and maybe a double jump can do miracles in gameplay with litle effort. John Tucker of Shine & Associates on the gradient boundary of the south bank of Red River. It has Mr. Stiles’ remarks and observations penciled in the margins as he and Mr. Kidder carried out their assigned work. In 1996, Texas and Oklahoma agreed to create the Red River Boundary Commission to solve the border dispute between the two states once and for all. (Missing Lyrics), Bearcat Mama From Horner’s Corner Sohom Sahaun 3 … (Missing Lyrics), The Shotgun Wedding (Missing Lyrics), Let’s Be Sweethearts Again To my home in Louisiana where the old Red River flows (Missing Lyrics), You’re As Welcome As The Flowers In May (Missing Lyrics), I Dreamed Of An Old Love Affair I can see my dear old mommy as around the place she goes Originating at the confluence of the Bois de Sioux and Otter Tail rivers between the U.S. states of Minnesota and North Dakota, it flows northward through the Red River Valley, forming most of the border of Minnesota and North Dakota and continuing into Manitoba. Our work is separated by some ninety-five years and yet the Red River continues to flow along and form the same types of banks. (Missing Lyrics), Just Thinking Of You Recently, the U. S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Land Management declared a substantial amount of land long-considered to be part of Texas as U. S. land. The 1920’s era Oklahoma v. Texas controversy extended over several years with some specific issues considered separately. Red River, also called Red River of the South, navigable river rising in the high plains of eastern New Mexico, U.S., and flowing southeast across Texas and Louisiana to a point northwest of Baton Rouge, where it enters the Atchafalaya River, which flows south to Atchafalaya Bay and the Gulf of Mexico. Sohom Sahaun 2 … One of them flows between the states of Minnesota and North Dakota. This ‘middle of the river’ monument is 2360 feet south of the gradient boundary determined by Foster Townsend on the south bank. At exceptional places where there is no well defined cut bank, but only a gradual incline from the sand bed of the river to the upland, the boundary is a line over such incline conforming to the mean level of the waters when at other places in that vicinity they reach and wash the cut bank without overflowing it. The game wardens and other peace officers wanted a better defined jurisdictional line from which to operate. (Missing Lyrics), Arabella Blues I was privileged to learn gradient boundary methodology from my mentor, Darrell D. Shine, who learned from Irving Webb, a direct student of Arthur Stiles. From these posts, bearings and distances were taken to points on the gradient boundary. [Chorus], Goodbye Old Booze (Missing Lyrics), In My Cabin Tonight In the Oklahoma v. Texas lawsuit of the 1920’s (addressed at length in Dr. Elgin’s Part I of this series), two preeminent surveyors, Colonel Arthur A. Stiles and Arthur D. Kidder, were appointed by the Supreme Court1 to determine how to go about fixing this boundary line on the ground. These were on upland with substantial vegetation in the area. The Red River begins at the confluence of the Bois de Sioux and Otter Tail rivers and flows north, creating the border between Minnesota and North Dakota. This resulted in the vegetation line along the south bank being declared as the political boundary for jurisdictional purposes alone.3 The gradient boundary of the river would remain the correct boundary for real property interests or title to property. So, it’s conceivable and likely that in places the property boundary and the political boundary will be in different locations. The BLM surveyor reproduced this 1923 survey work and in the field notes declared the south bank monuments set in 2008 to be “along the Gradient Boundary, identical with the Boundary Line between the States of Texas and Oklahoma.” Many of these were far removed—a mile or more—from the river. Alvin Lassiter standing in Texas—pondering life on the Red River. This does not yield certainty of boundary. 571, No. (Missing Lyrics), Don’t Break Her Heart, Boy Unlike other states of the Union, Texas retained its public domain when it became a part of the United States in 1845. (Missing Lyrics), Davis’ Salty Dog Nedra Foster Townsend at Stiles/Kidder Reference Monument 25 set back from river as a permanent monument. In the Court’s writings the boundary bank was often referred to as a ‘cut bank.’ The qualified bank that contains the river will be an accretion bank that has been built by the deposit of alluvion as the river rises, deposits its load of soil, and recedes. (Missing Lyrics), Market House Blues (Missing Lyrics), Easy Rider Blues 3 In 2000 the U. S. Congress adopted what the Commission had hammered out. The Red River Flows On Nedra Foster Townsend 05.25.2019 On property of Patrick Canan, BLM Monument on south bank showing Texas on one side and Oklahoma and U. S. sections on other side. The goal of this Commission was to establish an identifiable political boundary between Texas and Oklahoma along the Red River without interfering with or otherwise affecting private property rights or title to property. Photo of BLM Medial Monument on Canan property (below). Mr. Bouman did not report performing an actual gradient boundary survey, but simply relied on field observations and comparisons to the work of Stiles and Kidder. (yodel) E So soft and looooooooooooooooooooooow - ooooooooooooooooahho (yodel) E B7 E On my farm in Louisianner where the old Red River Flows. Of those alternatives, six were considered for this study. (Missing Lyrics), I’m Gonna Write Myself A Letter The exact boundary between Texas and Oklahoma/United States became critical as oil wells were being punched into the ground. (Missing Lyrics), Top 100 Classics: The Very Best Of Jimmie Davis. (Missing Lyrics), Sweet Lorene These were far removed from what ‘practical judgment’ would determine as the middle of a riverbed. From Shawnee Creek to Denison Dam, the boundary line is within the current channel of the Red River. (Missing Lyrics), Sewing Machine Blues Mr. Bouman reported that he was relying on banks one to ten feet in height in reaching his conclusion. The Bureau of Land Management is tasked with management of more than 245 million acres of public land as well as about 700 million acres of sub-surface minerals throughout the nation. Bureau of Land Management (Missing Lyrics), Keyhole In The Door The stated purpose for the Agreement was to settle litigation. I performed a survey on the property of Jimmy Smith in Wichita County. As is true in almost every survey endeavor undertaken. The good news is that the vegetation line may be near the gradient boundary—except for when it isn’t. (Missing Lyrics), There’s Evil In Ye Children [Verse 2] Some of the Stiles/Kidder permanent monuments set back away from the river as well as some of the wood posts near the river were recovered. They claimed that such an ‘impermanent’ boundary would be inconsistent with what the Supreme Court intended. Within Lake Texoma, this boundary line follows the south bank of the Red River as the bank was located and marked by the United States Army Corps of Engineers before the commencement of the construction of Lake Texoma.” It was also set out that the compact would not alter any of the present or future rights of the Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache Tribes, the Chickasaw Nation, and the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. Surveyors today tasked with performing a survey on any river will benefit from reading the instructions and observations of the Court that guided these two surveyors.2 The Court pointed out that practical judgment must be exercised in making this boundary determination. (Missing Lyrics), Ridin’ Down The Arizona Trail Also Recorded 1962 - 1977 - 1978 - 1993. 2000 Texas Oklahoma Boundary Compact This treasure looks like any information that has gone to the field with a surveyor for extended periods. This is all well and good, but folks must not lose sight of the fact that their waterfront will be subject to all the vicissitudes of nature. (Missing Lyrics), That’s Why I’m Nobodys Darling In the 2000’s era controversy, the Bureau of Land Management witnesses continually pointed out their opinion that the loose sand banks at the edge of the water could not possibly be what the Court intended because they would shift from time to time. [Chorus] (Missing Lyrics), Organ Grinder Blues (Missing Lyrics), Sweetheart Of The Valley Survey corners that I located miles away from the river were also in loose sand. 1 Quoting from State of Oklahoma v. State of Texas, No. © 2020 Spatial Media LLC—All rights reserved, 7820-B Wormans Mill Road #236 // Frederick MD 21701 // 301‑620‑0784. It seems to have simply muddied the waters further in an already murky boundary situation. The Outcome Much of these 90,000 acres would have been on lands currently claimed by Texans. (Missing Lyrics), The Curse Of An Aching Heart (Missing Lyrics), Farewell To The Range Chorus: Where the Fraser river flows, each fellow worker knows, They have bullied and oppressed us, but still our union grows. Issued on Victor 23525 B. On the beach at Coney Island where the laughter makes you gay. The states agreed that accretion or erosion may cause a change in the boundary between the states if it causes a change in the vegetation line. All rights belong to Collective Soul, and their respective business partners. Addressing Erosion and Accretion Copy of portion of Mr. Stiles’ field copy of Court’s Instructions. Within 120 days after this Agreement, Defendants were supposed to remove from the monuments any references to the States of Texas or Oklahoma (that is, if the Texas landowners would allow them access to their property.) To my home in Louisiana where the old Red River flows Red River. They were given instructions by the Court. (Missing Lyrics), Live And Let Live It then f… It is formed by the confluence of the Bois de Sioux and Otter Tail rivers at the twin cities of Wahpeton (N.D.) and Breckenridge (Minn.). (Missing Lyrics), What Happened (Missing Lyrics), Midnight Blues Well, I'm dreaming about Dixie cotton fields and whippoorwills I'm heading south tonight, dear on the IC where she goes I have had occasion to work with BLM surveyors through my career and have consistently found them to be people of highest integrity and very careful surveyors. (Missing Lyrics), There’s A New Love In My Heart Tonight Where the Old Red River Flows; Where the Old Red River Flows Where The Old Red River Flows - 2019 - Remaster is a popular song by Hank Williams | Create your own TikTok videos with the Where The Old Red River Flows - 2019 - Remaster song and explore 0 videos made by new and popular creators. In 2016-17 I performed survey work on lands of eight different individuals and a ninth tract in which the State of Texas had interest. The physical top of the cut bank being very uneven in profile cannot be a datum for locating the boundary line, but a gradient along the bank must be used for that purpose. They spent about three years in fulfilling the project given to them by the Court. I also located ten BLM monuments on or near to the Smith property as well as recovering some of the Stiles/Kidder monuments. However, this is the Red River—notorious for changing course! From 2000-2009 the Bureau of Land Management, under the U. S. Department of the Interior, undertook a resurvey of portions of the Red River. (Missing Lyrics), My Blue Bonnet Girl Through the course of meetings and conferences, it came to light that the Bureau of Land Management was claiming some 90,000 acres lying south of the Red River, west of the 98th Meridian (near Stanfield, TX.) The bank heights found by me are consistent with those of Stiles and Kidder who worked with banks from 1.0 to 3.0 feet in total height. With regard to avulsion, the states agreed that a change in the course of the Red River caused by an immediately perceivable natural event that changed the vegetation line will change the location of the boundary between the states. (Missing Lyrics), I’m Sorry If That’s The Way You Feel The Red River in Chinese mythology, one of the four cardinal rivers which flows out of (the mythological) Kunlun Mountain range Other uses [ edit ] Red River (1948 film) , an American film named for the Texan river Even some of the BLM monuments marking the north bank were well south of the current south bank of the Red River, placed on the upland on lands claimed by Texans for generations. Article II (g) of the compact set out that if there is a change in the watercourse, the party states would recognize the rules of accretion, erosion, and avulsion. The boundary line has been determined accordingly.’”. To gather 'round our standard when the red flag is unfurled. Indeed! 1 River, 1,222 mi (1,967 km) long, southernmost of the large tributaries of the Mississippi River. On and along inclines (transverse slopes) the vegetation line may be hundreds of feet away. On property of Patrick Canan, BLM Monument on south bank showing Texas on one side and Oklahoma and U. S. sections on other side. As usual, the discovery of oil served as a catalyst for arguments of all sorts. Agathe and St. Adolphe. (Missing Lyrics), Penitentiary Blues (Missing Lyrics), Born To Be Blue (Missing Lyrics), Wampus Kitty Mama It empties into Lake Winnipeg, whose waters join the Nelson River and ultimately flow into In the intervening four years the river washed away a large section of the opposite bank on the north and shifted its principal channel to that side. (Missing Lyrics), She’s a Hum Hum Dinger GPS on same monument with Alvin Lassiter and John Tucker of Shine & Associates. The north boundary of these grants generally called to be on the Red River. It rises in two branches in the Texas Panhandle and flows SE between Texas and Oklahoma and between Texas and Arkansas to Fulton, Ark. The boundaries of Texas have long been fertile ground … We so said in the opinion and decree which were to guide the commissioners.”. Almost all the flowing water in the Great Plains and Upper Midwest flows downhill into the Missouri-Mississippi River system, which flows into the Gulf … Comments. Log in with itch.io to leave a comment. Where The Red River Flows v1.1.exe 4 MB. The total bank height is measured from the toe (the break between river bed and bank) to top (the point where the water reaches but does not overtop the bank). (Missing Lyrics), No Good For Nothin’ Note the terrain in what BLM considers to be the middle of the river. (Missing Lyrics), Some Must Win, Some Lose He hand stitched the Court’s printed instructions into a booklet with a brown craft paper cover. The Bureau of Reclamation identified eight water-supply alternatives for the Red River Valley Water Supply Project. These were located in Wichita and Wilbarger Counties. And the fight was on! The 539 miles stretch of the Red River serving as a part of the northern boundary has certainly contributed its share to the stream of troubles. The BLM subsequently lowered their estimate of public domain to 30,000 acres. The boundary between the two states is on and along that bank at the mean level attained by the waters of the river when they reach and wash the bank without overflowing it. The field notes set out the methodology and which surveys were being retraced from the original 1875 and onward. It enters Vietnam at Lào Cai Province and forms a portion of the international border between China and Vietnam. Reply. “The foregoing specifications applied in the light of the opinion, admit of, and require the exercise of practical judgment in determining the line intended; but certain fundamentals, such as the following obviously must form the final basis for the exact location of the line. (Missing Lyrics), In The Pines The Red River at sunset winding its way along between Oklahoma and Texas. (Missing Lyrics), I’ll Be True To The One I Love (Missing Lyrics), I’m Only In The Way When a body was dumped in the river, there could be uncertainty as to which sheriff was in charge of the investigation. On my surveying of this and the other tracts, I found substantial accretion that had taken place, but I also noted that in places the riverbed was in the process of being eroded back. There are two rivers that are called Red River in the United States. From Everett's Music Barn. 2008-09 BLM Survey The Red River begins in China 's Yunnan province in the mountains south of Dali. (Missing Lyrics), I Saw Your Face In The Moon Having reviewed this deposition testimony and other new information, the BLM believes the survey methodology used was in error, and may have caused errors in identifying the location of the Gradient Boundary.”, A Joint Settlement Agreement was reached on December 19, 2017, and so ordered by the judge on January 3, 2018, in which the Settlement Agreement offered by the Plaintiffs, Kenneth Aderholt et al, was incorporated in its entirety to be part of the Joint Settlement Agreement. Tract 2 called to be 131.948 acres and my resurvey found 534.14 acres. The total bank height of these ranged from a low of 2.00 feet to a high of 3.43 feet. Where The Old Red River Flows lyrics and chords . It’s the nature of the Red River to move about, and it is certainly doing so. Monuments of the 2008 era were also set marking the ‘medial’ line of the river—which should be in the middle of the river bed. In 2000, this jurisdictional boundary was established through the Red River Boundary Compact to be on the continuous vegetation line on the south bank. (Missing Lyrics), The End Of The World (Missing Lyrics), Dating A Memory The Court determined that Stiles and Kidder had made the correct decision when they included this accretion in the upland and ran the boundary on the outer line (river side) of this accretion. In 1994, the BLM published an Oklahoma Resource Management Plan that addressed the Red River Management. (Missing Lyrics), Saturday Night Stroll It was named for its reddish water color from passing through red-bed country in its watershed. ‘The boundary line is a gradient of the flowing water in the river. And the twilight in the evening so loooooo so soft and loooooooo. 2 From the 1923 case (260 U.S. 606, 43 Sup. (Missing Lyrics), I Never Say Goodbye (Missing Lyrics), Atlanta, Georgia (Missing Lyrics), When A Boy From The Mountain This treaty, as ratified by Spain and the United States in 1821 and by Mexico in 1822, established the Red River as the southwestern boundary of Louisiana-as far northwest as the 100th meridian, "as laid down on the Melish Map." “The south bank of the river is the water-washed and relatively permanent elevation or acclivity, commonly called a cut-bank, along the southerly side of the river which separates its bed from the adjacent upland, whether valley or hill, and usually serves to confine the waters within the bed and to preserve the course of the river. The Red River (French: rivière Rouge or rivière Rouge du Nord, American English: Red River of the North) is a river in the north-central United States and central Canada. (Missing Lyrics), All Alone In This World That means where the boundary of the river is, there also is the common boundary of these uplands. This did not set well with the Texans. On my farm in Louisiana where the old Red River flows. The Red River, or sometimes the Red River of the South, is a major river in the Southern United States. Corners were monumented on these lands—much to the consternation of those landowners once the corners had been discovered. Ct. 376): Paragraph 5. (Missing Lyrics), I’m Thinking Tonight Of My Blue Eyes The only explanation I have for this current work is that it was begun from a wrong premise. (Missing Lyrics), High Behind Blues Most of the Texas tracts fronting on the Red River were granted by the State of Texas in the 1870’s. The Red River flows into Arkansas and turns south at Fulton, Arkansas entering Louisiana near Ida. Where The Old Red River Flows John Hartford Steam Powered Aereo Takes Banjo tuned E, Key E,Capo 3 Where the Old Red River Flows E A Well I'm dreamin' about Dixie cotton fields and whippoorwi The lands in Texas have been granted out by four different sovereigns: Spain, Mexico, the Republic of Texas, and the State of Texas. It’s doubtful that this Compact worked as the ‘silver bullet’ in solving jurisdictional questions. In the course of this work, they requested permission to enter on the lands of some Texas landowners. They were all parties to the lawsuit which was filed by them against the U. S. Bureau of Land Management. The epic battle happened in the early 1900’s when oil was discovered in abundant quantities in the Big Bend area of the Red River near Burkburnett and Wichita Falls, Texas and near Randlett and Lawton, Oklahoma. But it is said, “If an acre of land is worth owning, it’s worth fighting for.” And Texans were definitely mad enough to fight! This interim decision strongly reiterated the Court’s stance that the boundary would be subject to the normal accretions and erosions that affect rivers. Having Anal Intercourse while a girl is on her period. This effort towards certainty of boundary once more involved much ink, many hours and words, and ultimately produced the Red River Compact. (Missing Lyrics), The Beginning Of The End Randall Everett & Brian Stephens do this song better than anyone. (Missing Lyrics), Get On Board Aunt Susan (Missing Lyrics), Won’t You Forgive Me But somehow it has not remained ‘settled.’ As Dr. Elgin pointed out, like Shakespeare’s Banquo’s ghost from Macbeth, “It will not down.”. On my farm in Louisiana where the old Red River flows Oh the lights tonight on Broadway, electric lights shine bright as day On the beach at Coney Island, where the laughter makes you gay But I'm goin' back tonight love, on the icy wind she goes To my farm in Louisiana where the old Red River flows Hi … (Missing Lyrics), Pea Pickin’ Papa Stiles/Kidder Survey Several times the Court pointed out that ‘reasonable and practical’ judgments must be made. The boundaries of Texas have long been fertile ground for battles—some on the ground and some in the courtroom. The Red River is a major North American river located in North Dakota. Mr. Bouman did note that in areas the ‘beds’ might remain untouched by scouring rains and “in about thirty years’ time, assume an upland appearance.” In actuality, this is a good description of accretion—the ground had risen in elevation by some seven feet and was gaining upland vegetation which would cause the banks to stabilize. 919, PUBLIC LAW 106-288, OCT 10, 2000) According to the federal legislation, “(b) The permanent political boundary line between the states of Texas and Oklahoma along the Red River is the vegetation line along the south bank of the Red River except for the Texoma area, where the boundary does not change. In various survey projects along the Red River from 2001 through 2017, I have located twelve qualified banks on which I’ve relied to perform gradient boundary projects. (Missing Lyrics), The Davis Limited Well the lights tonight on Broadway electric lights shine bright as day. (Missing Lyrics), Shirt Tail Blues and extending westward to the mouth of the North Fork of the Red River (approximately 34°19’58”N 99°12’33”W in Wilbarger County, TX). On Kevin Hunter’s property, the south bank of the river as determined by BLM is more than 6500 feet south of boundary determined by Foster Townsend. One of these4 addressed avulsions, accretions, and erosions that occurred during the years that this lawsuit was grinding along. On my farm in Louisiana where the old Red River flows (Missing Lyrics), You Tell Me Your Dream, I’ll Tell You Mine (Missing Lyrics), Davis Limited (Alternate Take) (Missing Lyrics), Home Town Blues “The Court deemed it better and in the interest of economy to commit the work on the portions of the boundary….to two commissioners instead of three. (Missing Lyrics), Just Because (Of You Little Girl) (Missing Lyrics), Columbus Stockade Blues (Alternate Take) For an in-depth discussion of events leading up to and including the Supreme Court case of Oklahoma v. Texas, 260 U. S. 606 (1923), see Part 1 of these two articles which was written by Dr. Richard Elgin of Rolla, Missouri, and was published in the April 2019 issue of this magazine. As a part of this process, they develop and from time to time update Resource Management Plans. For purposes of this compact: (1) the Texoma area extends from the east bank of Shawnee Creek (which flows into the Red River from the south approximately one-half mile below the Denison Dam) at its mouth to the upper end of the normal pool elevation of Lake Texoma (which is 617 feet); and (2) the upper end of the normal pool elevation of Lake Texoma is along the latitude of 33 degrees 54 minutes as it crosses the watercourse at the approximate location of longitude 96 degrees 59 minutes. The highest point on this gradient must not be higher than the lowest acceptable point on the bank in that vicinity. JoaoMantovani 3 years ago (1 edit) The game have potential. In 1970 Cadastral Surveyor Lane J. Bouman wrote, “Report on the Investigation of the Red River in Townships 4 and 5 South, Range 14 West, Indian Meridian, Oklahoma.” Mr. Bouman’s objective was to determine if a boundary established (in 1970) in accordance with paragraphs 5, 6, and 7 of the January 15, 1923 opinion of the Supreme Court (see footnote 2 for Court instructions) would coincide with the 1923 gradient boundary established by Surveyors Stiles and Kidder. And at twilight in the evening so soft and low, so low I try to warn clients who own property fronting on water that there is an inherent risk in that ownership—now, the Texas landowners’ whose rights were being threatened can rest much easier. The Red River, located in the US, starts out in the Texas Panhandle and flows about 1,638 km (1,018 mi) eastward along the Texas-Oklahoma border. (Missing Lyrics), Down At The Old Country Church Reply. In Where the River Runs Red, we visit the isolated area of western Tasmania, where an ominous red river divides the small mining town of Queenstown.A result of … The beginning point of any gradient boundary survey as set out by Arthur Stiles and Arthur Kidder is the location of qualified or key banks. This confluence is connected to the Mississippi River by the Old (Missing Lyrics), A Woman’s Blues The outcome of this lawsuit ‘settled’ the common boundary of Texas and Oklahoma/United States on the South bank of the Red River at the gradient boundary. Well, the nights are bright on Broadway and the city's bright as day Get the When the red rivers flowing, take the dirt road home neck gaiter and mug. From time immemorial people have been drawn to the water—want to live beside the water. Paragraph 6. This increase in acreage was due to the large amounts of accretion along the northerly portions of the tract. These classic country song lyrics are the property of the respective artist, authors and labels, they are intended solely for … The two were selected by the Court as its representatives, not as representatives of any of the parties. (Missing Lyrics), If Tomorrow Never Comes Nedra Foster Townsend is President of Shine & Associates in Silsbee, Texas, and is the only woman to be a Licensed State Land Surveyor in Texas. (Missing Lyrics), I Loved You Once (Missing Lyrics), I’m Knocking At Your Door Again (Missing Lyrics), Alimony Blues This particular tract had both gained substantial acreage through accretion and lost a small amount of land through erosion compared to the description under which Mr. Smith purchased this property in 2006. 15 (June 9, 1924), Originally there was a purpose to select three commissioners—one each to represent the interests of U. 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